db 144 Jesus' resurrection "after 3 days,"


ACCORDING
TO MARKOS'
VERSION, AS OPPOSED
TO THE "IN THREE DAYS" OF LATER EUANGELISTS,
COULD POSSIBLY DERIVE AS WELL FROM A CLOSE READING OF THE DANIEL PASSAGE,
FOR IF JESUS' SUFFERING BEFORE EXALTATION COMES FROM THE "TIME, TWO TIMES, AND HALF A TIME"
DURING WHICH THE ONE LIKE A SON OF MAN IS TO SUFFER IN DANIEL 7, AND IF THESE "TIMES" ARE UNDERSTOOD AS DAYS,
THEN JESUS WOULD RISE AFTER A DAY, TWO MORE DAYS, AND PART OF A DAY, THAT IS, AFTER THE THIRD DAY?
BUT THIS MUST REMAIN A SPECULATION!

Mark 9:11-13
"As it is written concerning him" ~
Jesus' story and his progressive self-revelation to his disciples
return again and again to Scripture - and to midrash on that Scripture.

Mark 9:11-13 is the account of Jesus' conversation with his disciples after the transfiguration on the mountain.

It thus represents a highly emphasized climatic moment in the story of the Gospel and one that is particularly telling for Christology.

This passage has puzzled most commentators till now, but we will see that the text is best understood as part and parcel of a Jewish tradition of the suffering Messiah. Here are the verses in their necessary and immediate context, following the transfiguration in which Moshe, Elijah, and Jesus have been revealed to be close associates (at the very least) in a vision:
AS THEY WERE COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN, HE ORDERED THEM TO TELL NO ONE ABOUT WHAT THEY HAD SEEN,
UNTIL AFTER THE SON OF MAN HAD RISEN FROM THE DEAD. SO THEY KEPT THE MATTER TO THEMSELVES,
QUESTIONING WHAT THIS RISING FROM THE DEAD COULD MEAN. AND THEY ASKED HIM SAYING,
WHY DO THE SCRIBES SAY THAT ELIJAH MUST COME FIRST?
AND HE SAID TO THEM, ELIJAH WHEN HE COMES FIRST RESTORES ALL THINGS.
AND HOW HAS IT BEEN WRITTEN OF THE SON OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD SUFFER MANY THINGS AND BE REJECTED?
BUT I SAY TO YOU THAT ELIJAH HAS COME AND THEY DID TO HIM WHATEVER THEY WANTED,
AS HAS BEEN WRITTEN CONCERNING HIM.

As many commentators have written, this passage raises great difficulties. There is no record in the Scriptures that Elijah would be mistreated, so on what basis does the Gospel read "it has been written concerning him"?
Further, Joel Marcus has pointed out,
"if Elijah restores all things, then how once conceive of a Messiah who is to be rejected by humanity, a Messiah whose suffering and rejection are foretold in the scripture (9:12c)? The two expectations appear to contradict each other."

Marcus's brilliant move here is to rea-like that this is not a flaw in the Gospel textbut it's very vocation. Marcus's great insight was that the Gospel text thematizes the contradiction: he somewhat goes off track in the beginning of his discussion by citing the tannaitic rule of "two verses that contradict each other"; the correct comparison is to the midrashic form of the Mekhilta, which is given later. This initial confusion has some consequences
...

This contradiction is what the Gospel text is about; this is not a "bug," as we might say, but a feature. We have something very close to a standard midrashic form here: the question of the disciples here is not "How is it written that Elijah will come first?" but "Why do the scribes say this, for if what they say is true: How is it written that the Son of Man will suffer many things?" They are pointing to a contradiction between the verse to which Jesus refers and the statements of the scribes, nòt between two verses. His disciples understand Yesh of vv. 9-11 very well!
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT HAS BEEN REVEALED TO THEM IS THAT YESH ÌS THE SON OF MAN, AND THEY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS: THUS THEY ARE ASTOUNDED, AS THEY ALWAYS ARE, THAT YESH WILL SUFFER, EVEN THOUGH, AS YESH POINTS OUT, IT IS, INDEED, WRITTEN THAT THE SON OF MAN WILL SUFFER. AFTER ALL, AT THE END OF THE CHAPTER IN 9:30, THEY STILL HAVE NÒT UNDER-STOOD YESHUA'S PREDICTION THAT HE WILL BE HANDED OVER TO HUMAN BEINGS, THAT THEY WILL KILL HIM, AND THAT HE WILL RISE.
THEY ARE ALSO PUZZLED THAT YESH AS THE MESSIAH HAS COME BUT ELIJAH SEEMINGLY HASN'T, AND THE SCRIBES SAY THAT ELAIJAH WILL COME BEFORE THE MESSIAH AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. JESUS' ANSWER IS BRILLIANTLY TO THE POINT:
And they asked him saying, Why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first? And he said to them, Elijah when he comes first restores all things. And how has it been written of the Son of Man that he should suffer many things and be rejected? But Í say to you that Eliljah hàs come and they dìd to him whatever they wanted, as has been written concerning him.

The SCRIBES say that Elijah, coming before the Son of Man, will restore all things and thus how could it be that the Son of Man will suffer? And Yesh answers:
DOES THE PROPHET, IN FACT, SAY THAT ELIJAH WILL RESTORE THINGS; IF THAT WERE THE CASE, HOW, INDEED, CÓULD IT BE WRITTEN THAT THE SON OF MAN WILL SUFFER MANY THINGS?

No, Yesh maintains (correctly), it does nòt say in the verse that Elijah will restore all things; it is the SCRIBES who came up with this idea themselves! And the scribes MÙST simply be wrong in THÉIR interpretation of the coming of Elijah; all wìll be restored, nòt by Elijah but by the Son of Man & ONLY after the terrible sufferings of the Day of the Lord, which are themselves written clearly in the text of Malakhi!

NOW the answer is clear: Elijah hàs come already in the form of YOCHANAN/John the Baptist (as explicitly in Matai/Matthew), the forerunner, and they DID to him what they wished to.

Enough for now!
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