db 141 The association of these prophetic texts ~~


WITH
THE SON
OF MAN FROM
DANIEL IS PRECISELY WHAT
ENABLED THE FULL(ER) DEVELOPMENT OF A SUFFERING CHRIST,
ACCORDING TO WHICH JESUS' DEMISE (AND EXALTATION) WAS INTERPRETED.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS AS PLAUSIBLE TO ASSUME THAT JEWS HELD THIS VIEW OF THE VICARIOUS SUFFERING OF THE MESSIAH
AND HIS ATONING DEATH, AS PREDICTED BY THE PROPHET ISAIAH BEFORE JESUS' OWN SUFFERING AND DEATH,
AS IT IS TO ASSUME THAT CHRISTIANS MADE IT UP AFTER THE FACT.
[Jewish Gospels/Jewish Christ]

Once again, we find a Jesus who sees himself, imagines himself, and presents himself as entirely fulfilling the messianic expectation already in place to the effect that the "Son of Man must suffer many things." The Jews were expecting a Redeemer in the time of Jesus: their own sufferings under Roman domination seemed so great, and this Redeemer had been predicted for them. Reading the Book of Dani'el closely, at least some Jews - those behind the first-century Similitudes of Enoch and those with Jesus - had concluded that the Redeemer would be a di-vine figure named the Son of Man who would come to earth as a human, save the Jews from oppression, and rule the world as its sovereign.

Jesus seemed to many to fit that bill: his life and death were claimed to be precisely a fulfillment of what had been predicted of the Messiah, Son of Man, by the old books and traditions. What happened as that expectation of redemption was delayed and as more Gentiles joined this community is the story of the Church, of Christianity. It is not the suffering and dying of the Messiah that precipitated that story at all, as we see once we read the Gospel in its close connection to Dani'el! The connection with Daniel may be even clearer when we look at the parallel version of this teaching of Jesus to the disciples in MARK 9:31:
'THEY WENT ON FROM THERE AND PASSED THROUGH GALILEE. AND HE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ONE KNOW IT;
FOR HE WAS TEACHING HIS DISCIPLES, SAYING TO THEM,
"The Son of man will be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill him; and when he is killed, after three days he will rise."

BUT THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE SAYING, AND
THEY WERE AFRAID
TO ASK
HIM.'
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